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WinNTSetup - Lancelot :)
« on: March 13, 2015, 05:59:14 AM »

Lancelot

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Here are my findings with using WinNTSetup for my goals:
http://www.winntsetup.com/

Goal:
Host:Win81x64 - Uefi - Gpt Disk

I wanted to have a Win7x86 at hand (inside .vhd) to run old devices (with old drivers).

My Host boot manager (efi) refuse booting Win71x86 vhd,
So I use an old UFD (E: in pictures) with Boot Manager.

WinNTSetup step by step



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(ignore reg tweaks in picture, it is empty folder)

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Further Findings:

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Adding Drivers during setup may cause driver conflict
 I could not install IntelĀ® HD Graphics 4000 in my previous builds ( could not find enough free resources )
   similar case here (but solutions on that topic did not work here)
     https://nctritech.wordpress.com/2012/03/15/code-12-on-windows-7-the-device-cannot-find-enough-free-resources/
      better add drivers after boot  :thumbsup:


Asus N56VZ -  My driver install order
1 Atheros AR9485WB-EG Wireless Network Adapter
2 Qualcomm Atheros AR8161-8165 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (NDIS 6.20)
3 WinUpdate_NEtFrameWork4_IE11
4 win32_153332.exe  ---> ( IntelĀ® HD Graphics 4000 )
5 IntelUSB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver
6 Intel Chipset Device Software - Win7 - SetupChipset.exe
7 IntelManagement Engine Driver - PCI Simple Communications Controller
8 347.52-notebook-win8-win7-32bit-international-whql.exe  ---> ( NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M )

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Win71x86 want to chkdsk at boot, I am not sure about that so I disable this

BootExecute_Empty.reg
Code: [Select]
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager]
"BootExecute"=hex(7):00,00

Later I will also check with Win81 vhd ....

ps: There is currently a bug with WinNTSetup, you can not use this reg with reg tweaks
reply 22: http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=1236.msg14583#msg14583

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Booting Win71x86.vhd inside a usb3 disk with usb3 drivers installed
 currently not possible with Intel USB 3.0 drivers (BSOD)

Workaround, Use USB 2.0:
Start with Safe Mode
 On my pc:
 Add Remove Programs - Remove:
   Intel USB 3.0 Extensible Host Controller Driver


Maybe there is a solution to that, I currently don't know  :smile:
 and currently don't need  :wink:

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To create a bootable UFD, JFX reply 28
Oh, well common come on guys, just a line in cmd after attaching

Bcdboot Z:\Windows /s Y:

Z: - your mounted VHD
Y: - your boot partition

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Pending:
Instead of using old UFD with Boot Manager,
 maybe there is a way to convince efi bcd to boot Win71x86 !
 or maybe there is a way to boot from card reader !

I have some ideas, but no time to test .....

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WinNTSetup discussion topic with above and more is here
http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=1236


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Mission accomplished  :smile:
 Great Thanks to JFX    :happy: :dance:

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« Last Edit: March 13, 2015, 06:01:18 AM by Lancelot »

Re: WinNTSetup - Lancelot :)
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2015, 06:16:56 AM »

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maybe there is a way to convince efi bcd to boot Win71x86 !

Try this - it is how SE does it - (stiil maybe issue with GPT disk) but only one way to find out..

Edit the bootmgr.efi setting under the windows bootloader for winx86 entry to read

bootmenupolicy          Legacy  (not standard)

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I took it one step past NT and also added SE project to usb - SE failed integrity checks with NT BCD - vhd's worked fine - although I did have success combining both projects on one usb..

http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=1236.msg14618#msg14618
« Last Edit: March 13, 2015, 07:19:02 AM by KYHI »

Re: WinNTSetup - Lancelot :)
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2015, 07:35:53 AM »

Lancelot

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Thanks KYHI,

I will make trials when I find a wide time,

This is my only pc (home - work - personal),
 I need to have arsenals ready and big time at hand to revert back things.....
   Time is the big problem here, doing above suck my all free time this week, I have lots of pdf to read and things to practice......

I will follow things on this subject slowly slowly  :thumbsup:
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Re: WinNTSetup - Lancelot :)
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2015, 07:44:41 AM »

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That edit most likely will fail - Why ? Because you do not have the legacy BOOT Folder on your efi partition..

I got about 60 Hours, into it..
« Last Edit: March 13, 2015, 07:47:19 AM by KYHI »

Re: WinNTSetup - Lancelot :)
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2015, 08:01:54 AM »

Lancelot

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Hi KYHI,

accidentally I tried something and it worked nicely as expected :)

I hibernate Win81x64 host,
boot with ufd -> Win71x86.vhd
restart to Win81x64 host, rehibernates nicely  :smile: :smile:

This saves great great great great time  :smile:

edit: naaah better not to do that  :tongue: ...

sadly bios have no support to boot from card reader  :tongue: I will keep this ufd untouch  :lol:

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« Last Edit: March 13, 2015, 04:47:17 PM by Lancelot »

 

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