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Will Win10PE SE Support 15063 Build?
« on: April 06, 2017, 01:11:05 AM »

Hikari Calyx

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Since 15063 build will be public release in the next week, and I think it's time to support 15063 and replace WAIK from 15063.

Re: Will Win10PE SE Support 15063 Build?
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2017, 05:15:09 AM »

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It properly will be be supported in future, like it happened with the previous versions before  :rolleyes:
Have a strong feeling that there will soon come some refresh ISO, as 15063.0 is pretty much a disaster.

For WAIK I don't intend to update to the even buggier 15063 version unless there is any reason.
« Last Edit: April 06, 2017, 06:04:37 AM by JFX »

Re: Will Win10PE SE Support 15063 Build?
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2017, 05:26:06 AM »

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Thanks for your answer.
And another suggestion: Win10 2015/2016 LTSB already included win32calc.exe that Calculator Plugin requires.
Can it recognize win32calc.exe automatically from LTSB? Or add a checkbox "Check this if you are build from Win10 LTSB Image".

Re: Will Win10PE SE Support 15063 Build?
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2017, 06:46:09 AM »

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15063.0 is pretty much a disaster.

Can you please share with us what the biggest problems are?

Re: Will Win10PE SE Support 15063 Build?
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2017, 07:39:10 AM »

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There is actually just one problem, it's not stable.
On Windows 10 RS1 I get 1 or 2 app crashes a week, well actually that great for everyting that comes after Windows 7.

However on this new RTM, I have crashes every couple of hours.
Left alone the hidden ones, you only noticed looking at the event log.
Specially explorer hangs and crashes are very annoying.

On ADK side they messed up the wofadk.sys driver, it can no longer works under Windows 7. Just like they did with bcdedit.exe.
Also you properly noticed the system context menu "New" sub menu in the new WinPE.
Well, it freeze because it now depends on the StateRepository service.

We can get it to work on WinPE, but will need a workaround because it 's not fully compatible with the FBWF used in WinPE.
« Last Edit: April 06, 2017, 07:40:13 AM by JFX »

Re: Will Win10PE SE Support 15063 Build?
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2017, 07:43:41 AM »

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Thanks for these details, much appreciated.

Re: Will Win10PE SE Support 15063 Build?
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2017, 04:21:18 PM »

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In fact, you can go to China's worry-free start to see the forum, there should be helpful to the work of WINbuilder (worry-free start forum QQ B group seems to be someone to solve these problems, you can go and see)

Re: Will Win10PE SE Support 15063 Build?
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2017, 05:28:59 PM »

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无忧启动论坛,算了吧。叫什么Worry-free start……

Re: Will Win10PE SE Support 15063 Build?
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2017, 08:10:21 AM »

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Best part about 15063 is that it supports ReFS now. I've formatted several of my data HDD with ReFS using 15063 Powershell diskpart commands, so if the future Win10PE_SE can support ReFS that'll be fantastic.

Re: Will Win10PE SE Support 15063 Build?
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2017, 01:13:37 AM »

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Win10PE_SE already supports REFS, you can read and also create a REFS partition with Win10PE_SE 14393.

Re: Will Win10PE SE Support 15063 Build?
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2017, 09:58:03 AM »

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I just got Creator's Edition installed involuntarily and I am not in Preview or Insider program.  Build 15063.138.

Re: Will Win10PE SE Support 15063 Build?
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2017, 07:51:54 PM »

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Win10PE_SE already supports REFS, you can read and also create a REFS partition with Win10PE_SE 14393.

Not in my case. I created Win10PE_SE 14393 mainly used default settings, but under the PE environment the HDD partitions formatted with ReFS with 15063 can not be recognized. When double click the ReFS partitions, the PE asked to format it.

Re: Will Win10PE SE Support 15063 Build?
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2017, 09:22:41 PM »

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Ahh, you right seems RS2 creates REFS v3.2 volumes and 14393 drivers only support it up to version 3.1.

Re: Will Win10PE SE Support 15063 Build?
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2017, 10:02:39 PM »

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Ahh, you right seems RS2 creates REFS v3.2 volumes and 14393 drivers only support it up to version 3.1.

Thanks JFX! Yes.

Therefore I suppose when you guys update Win10PE_SE to 15063 RS2, then the ReFS I created under Windows 10 RS2 will be recognized. The other possibility is that the ReFS support is turned off by default in 14393, while the ReFS support is on in 15063.

Re: Will Win10PE SE Support 15063 Build?
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2017, 03:49:35 PM »

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I agree with the statement that the Creators update release was a total disaster.  Get this.  In addition to the other issues discussed in this thread, almost immediately upon installing the creators update (how naive I was, getting so excited about it), I discovered that running "Dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth" would fail.  No matter if it was run on a brand new os, no matter if the install media install wim was specified as the source, no matter what, the command would fail.  You might ask yourself why this is.  for the answer, look no further than Tweaking.com's Widnows AIO repair tool.  When running the pre-scan, the log outputs the following information concerning the Windows package files:
Scanning Windows Packages Files.
│ Started at (5/8/2017 12:55:25 PM)

│ These Files Are Possibly Corrupt (Bad Digital Signature): (Total: 1)
C:\Windows\servicing\Packages\Microsoft-Windows-TestRoot-and-FlightSigning-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.15063.0.mum

1 Combined Problems were found with the packages files, these files need to be replaced (These mainly only effect installing Windows Updates.)
│ The SFC (System File Checker) doesn't scan and replace some of these files, so you may need to replace them manually.

This would also explain why sfc is still able to run and complete successfully.  In short, Microsoft shipped us a product which has corrupt package files out of the box.  In my opinion, its just a broken product out of the box, and its unacceptable.  I mean they have had almost two years to improve upon this product.  The Redstone edition has probably been the most stable to date, but how is it that the release after it is so utterly horrible that it is almost as bad, if not worse, than the initial release??  Microsoft should literally be ashamed of themselves for releasing this product, as it has brought me really nothing but grief.  I fully stand behind your decision not to update WinpeSE until Microsoft releases an actually functional product because this embarrasment of a release is not even worth your time, that is for sure.

Re: Will Win10PE SE Support 15063 Build?
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2017, 07:56:35 PM »

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I made a TBWinRE boot disk from the Boot Media Creator of Terabyte Image for Windows v3.07 under Windows 10 RS2 Creators Update. No need to install Windows ADK, since TBWinRE creates WinRE instead of WinPE. Using the default settings the IFW boot USB can support ReFS created under RS2.

Hope support for RS2 will be added soon. Since all my data drives are now ReFS, only the Win10PESE based on RS2 will possibly work in my case. Waiting for an update.

Re: Will Win10PE SE Support 15063 Build?
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2017, 09:16:51 PM »

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Waiting for an update.

Don't hold your breath.
10PESE is on hold for now...

Re: Will Win10PE SE Support 15063 Build?
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2017, 06:06:52 AM »

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Waiting for an update.

Don't hold your breath.
10PESE is on hold for now...

What?!  Why?

Re: Will Win10PE SE Support 15063 Build?
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2017, 09:50:05 AM »

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