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Request: empty WebLabel ?
« on: December 17, 2017, 07:51:02 AM »

Lancelot

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Hi ied206,

Empty HomePage weblabels are there to force end user (and us) put weblinks to homepage of plugins they create.
ex:
Code: [Select]
WebLabel_Homepg=HomePage,1,10,343,20,55,18,
Desmond Reply 156 http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=2271.msg25087#msg25087

Well they are not always filled with links.....

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An idea maybe:
 instead of Blue Link there can be Red Link on interface
ex:
HomePage
->
HomePage

and on log, maybe different section [EmptyWebLabel] instead of warning or error.

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Or maybe other ideas. ?


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Re: Request: empty WebLabel ?
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2017, 10:09:35 AM »

ied206

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I don't think it is a good idea.
It makes implementation more complex and making things inconsistent.
And there are users writing personal plugin not intended for uploading.

I suggest to put theoven.org main link instead of empty URI.
User can edit weblinks to specific post later after uplading to forum.

Re: Request: empty WebLabel ?
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2017, 10:27:51 AM »

Lancelot

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I suggest to put theoven.org main link instead of empty URI.

I thought that too,
 but I do not like the idea to give impression to real authors of applications give idea we are pretending as home page of their applications.

What about this idea:
If PEBakery do not check http ftp etc.
(I can not test now writing from phone)
Something like:
WebLabel_Homepg=HomePage,1,10,343,20,55,18,Write_Homepage_Here
->
I guess this will prevent warnings ?

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« Last Edit: December 17, 2017, 10:28:29 AM by Lancelot »

Re: Request: empty WebLabel ?
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2017, 10:36:05 AM »

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What about this idea:
If PEBakery do not check http ftp etc.
(I can not test now writing from phone)
Something like:
WebLabel_Homepg=HomePage,1,10,343,20,55,18,Write_Homepage_Here
->
I guess this will prevent warnings ?

PEBakery depends on .Net Framework's Uri class at runtime.
https://docs.microsoft.com/ko-kr/dotnet/api/system.uri?view=netframework-4.7.1.
That is why these errors are not checked in Sytanx Checker.

Put https://, http://, ftp://, files:// in front of url will suppress warning.
So this is my suggestion:
Code: [Select]
WebLabel_Homepg=HomePage,1,10,343,20,55,18,https://write_homepage_here

Re: Request: empty WebLabel ?
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2017, 11:07:00 AM »

Lancelot

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And there are users writing personal plugin not intended for uploading.

Well we have lots of commercial undistributable plugins on servers intended to share all required info to add application to pe with the world.
ex:
Chris Acronis True Image plugin
Prz42 Aomei plugins.
....

With plugins on servers we can also fix or update them when required. Ex: bug fixes, feature adds, Syntax updates, new builder PEBakery syntax updates. ...
ex:
See reply 40 http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=175.msg24642#msg24642
Out of yomi , plugins at project servers also updated
Ex: Homes32 shutdownpe plugins on 2 SE projects that failed due to missing a quote.
Ex: feature add speed fan waiting http://theoven.org/index.php?topic=2313.0
....


Since we maintain all these plugins and get them run smooth all these years,
We do not care about unshared plugins or self modifications on projects.
In the end they decide to go personal, than they have to update personal.
There are only 2 users left I know who fits this definition which I totally ignore.

I advice you not to spend valuable free time with such users.

We lived through same things in very past and get hard lessons about selfish human nature.

It took sometime not to get pm or email anymore with games.
Instead we prefer anything on public topics, we have nothing to hide.
Still this cause another kind of post games through e-mails and pms ( giving links to public topics) targeting new developers and active members on forum ( I am pretty sure you get lots of e mail conversations) ,
 which I hope will end with stable PEBakery
 and we can get ChrisR madness with JFX development back active in some future.



Ps:  I was very naive engineer before I learn human nature. :wink:

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Shortly:
Personal Plugins requires Personal updates.
You can ignore such things.

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Re: Request: empty WebLabel ?
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2017, 11:08:30 AM »

Lancelot

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So this is my suggestion:
Code: [Select]
WebLabel_Homepg=HomePage,1,10,343,20,55,18,https://write_homepage_here

Ok, I will do that when I get back home + free time.  :thumbsup:

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Re: Request: empty WebLabel ?
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2017, 03:57:55 PM »

Lancelot

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Hi ied206,

Updated ALL plugins with empty weblabels I can find on all servers as much as I can. (eye check)
If missed from eyes, will be updated when reported or noticed.
Empty weblabels now have:
https://Write_Homepage_Here

Good side:
It force me to add many forgotten weblabels on plugins. But took a lot time.

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